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    <title>Forum Network | Book Tour Podcast Podcast</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[Weekly lecture by authors reading and discussing their latest works. Go on, live and learn by exploring our entire collection of great lectures.]]></description>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Weekly lecture by authors reading and discussing their latest works. Go on, live and learn by exploring our entire collection of great lectures.]]></itunes:summary>
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      <title>Colson Whitehead Reads from Sag Harbor</title>
      <description><![CDATA[Former MacArthur Fellowship recipient and award-winning author Colson Whitehead reads from his book <em>Sag Harbor</em>, which is newly released in paperback.

Benji Cooper is one of the few black students at an elite prep school in Manhattan. But every summer, Benji escapes to the Hamptons, to Sag Harbor, where a small community of African American professionals have built a world of their own.
 
The summer of &#8217;85 won&#8217;t be without its usual trials and tribulations, of course. There will be complicated new handshakes to fumble through and state-of-the-art profanity to master. Benji will be tested by contests big and small, by his misshapen haircut (which seems to have a will of its own), by the New Coke Tragedy, and by his secret Lite FM addiction. But maybe, just maybe, this summer might be one for the ages.]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 15:51:37 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Former MacArthur Fellowship recipient and award-winning author Colson Whitehead reads from his book <em>Sag Harbor</em>, which is newly released in paperback.

Benji Cooper is one of the few black students at an elite prep school in Manhattan. But every summer, Benji escapes to the Hamptons, to Sag Harbor, where a small community of African American professionals have built a world of their own.
 
The summer of &#8217;85 won&#8217;t be without its usual trials and tribulations, of course. There will be complicated new handshakes to fumble through and state-of-the-art profanity to master. Benji will be tested by contests big and small, by his misshapen haircut (which seems to have a will of its own), by the New Coke Tragedy, and by his secret Lite FM addiction. But maybe, just maybe, this summer might be one for the ages.]]></itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords>Harvard Book Store,Art Architecture,Culture Identity,People Places,North America,20th Century,21st Century,African American,Authors,Culture,Fiction,Identity,Race,WGBH,WGBH FM,WGBH Forum Network Book Tour,Boston,Massachusetts</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:duration>37:22</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Gail Caldwell: Let&#8217;s Take the Long Way Home</title>
      <description><![CDATA[Memoirist and former Boston Globe book critic Gail Caldwell reads from her new memoir, <em>Let?s Take the Long Way Home</em>, about her dear friend and colleague, Pulitzer Prize-winning author Caroline Knapp.]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:26:48 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Memoirist and former Boston Globe book critic Gail Caldwell reads from her new memoir, <em>Let?s Take the Long Way Home</em>, about her dear friend and colleague, Pulitzer Prize-winning author Caroline Knapp.]]></itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords>Harvard Book Store,Culture Identity,Literature Philosophy,People Places,North America,21st Century,Authors,Drama,Fiction,Print,American Author,Caroline Knapp,dog,WGBH,WGBH FM,WGBH Forum Network Book Tour,Boston,Massachusetts</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:duration>43:40</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Stephen Prothero: God Is Not One</title>
      <description><![CDATA[Stephen Prothero, religion scholar and bestselling author, discusses his new book,<em> God Is Not One: The Eight Rival Religions That Run the World--And Why Their Differences Matter</em>.]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:27:30 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Stephen Prothero, religion scholar and bestselling author, discusses his new book,<em> God Is Not One: The Eight Rival Religions That Run the World--And Why Their Differences Matter</em>.]]></itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords>Harvard Book Store,Culture Identity,Literature Philosophy,World,21st Century,Spirituality Religion,Bible,biblical stories,christianity,coffee,Constantine,control,WGBH,WGBH FM,WGBH Forum Network Book Tour,Boston,Massachusetts</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:duration>52:38</itunes:duration>
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      <title>President Obama: Year One</title>
      <description><![CDATA[Jonathan Alter, Senior Editor and Columnist for <em>Newsweek</em>, discusses his new book, <em>The Promise:  President Obama, Year One</em> with his <em>Newsweek </em>colleague, Eleanor Clift.]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:19:41 -0400</pubDate>
      <link>http://forum-network.org</link>
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      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Jonathan Alter, Senior Editor and Columnist for <em>Newsweek</em>, discusses his new book, <em>The Promise:  President Obama, Year One</em> with his <em>Newsweek </em>colleague, Eleanor Clift.]]></itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords>John F Kennedy Library Foundation,Culture Identity,Health Happiness,History,Literature Philosophy,People Places,Politics Public Affairs,North America,21st Century,WGBH,WGBH FM,WGBH Forum Network Book Tour,Boston,Massachusetts</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:duration>84:34</itunes:duration>
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      <title>William Powers: Hamlet&#8217;s Blackberry</title>
      <description><![CDATA[Media and technology writer William Powers discusses his new book, <em>Hamlet?s Blackberry: A Practical Philosophy for Building a Good Life in the Digital Age</em>.

At a time when we?re all trying to make sense of our relentlessly connected lives, this book presents a bold new approach to the digital age. Part intellectual journey, part memoir, <em>Hamlet?s BlackBerry</em> sets out to solve what William Powers calls the conundrum of connectedness. Our computers and mobile devices do wonderful things for us. But they also impose an enormous burden, making it harder for us to focus, do our best work, build strong relationships, and find the depth and fulfillment we crave.

<em>Hamlet?s BlackBerry</em> argues that we need a new way of thinking, an everyday philosophy for life with screens. To find it, Powers reaches into the past, uncovering a rich trove of ideas that have helped people manage and enjoy their connected lives for thousands of years. New technologies have always brought the mix of excitement and stress that we feel today. Drawing on some of history?s most brilliant thinkers, from Plato to Shakespeare to Thoreau, he shows that digital connectedness serves us best when it?s balanced by its opposite, <em>disconnectedness</em>.]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:59:33 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Media and technology writer William Powers discusses his new book, <em>Hamlet?s Blackberry: A Practical Philosophy for Building a Good Life in the Digital Age</em>.

At a time when we?re all trying to make sense of our relentlessly connected lives, this book presents a bold new approach to the digital age. Part intellectual journey, part memoir, <em>Hamlet?s BlackBerry</em> sets out to solve what William Powers calls the conundrum of connectedness. Our computers and mobile devices do wonderful things for us. But they also impose an enormous burden, making it harder for us to focus, do our best work, build strong relationships, and find the depth and fulfillment we crave.

<em>Hamlet?s BlackBerry</em> argues that we need a new way of thinking, an everyday philosophy for life with screens. To find it, Powers reaches into the past, uncovering a rich trove of ideas that have helped people manage and enjoy their connected lives for thousands of years. New technologies have always brought the mix of excitement and stress that we feel today. Drawing on some of history?s most brilliant thinkers, from Plato to Shakespeare to Thoreau, he shows that digital connectedness serves us best when it?s balanced by its opposite, <em>disconnectedness</em>.]]></itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords>Harvard Book Store,Culture Identity,Literature Philosophy,Media Technology,People Places,North America,21st Century,Authors,Career,Community Building,Culture,WGBH,WGBH FM,WGBH Forum Network Book Tour,Boston,Massachusetts</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:duration>42:03</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Denial: A Memoir of Terror</title>
      <description><![CDATA[Terrorism and foreign policy expert Jessica Stern discusses her new book, <em>Denial: A Memoir of Terror</em>. While the word "terror" is now primarily used in a global context, including in much of Stern?s work, Denial describes the very personal form of terror that she experienced as a young woman and that influenced her life and career in the years to come.

Alone in an unlocked house in a safe neighborhood in the suburban town of Concord, Massachusetts, two good, obedient girls, Jessica Stern, 15, and her sister, 14, were raped on the night of October 1, 1973. The girls had just come back from ballet lessons and were doing their homework when a strange man armed with a gun entered their home. Afterward, when they reported the crime, the police were skeptical.

The rapist was never caught. For over 30 years, Stern denied the pain and the trauma of the assault. Following the example of her family, Stern--who lost her mother at the age of three, and whose father was a Holocaust survivor--focused on her work instead of her terror. She became a world-class expert on terrorism, a lauded academic and writer who interviewed terrorists around the globe. But while her career took off, her success hinged on her symptoms. After her ordeal she could not feel fear in normally frightening situations.]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:41:17 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Terrorism and foreign policy expert Jessica Stern discusses her new book, <em>Denial: A Memoir of Terror</em>. While the word "terror" is now primarily used in a global context, including in much of Stern?s work, Denial describes the very personal form of terror that she experienced as a young woman and that influenced her life and career in the years to come.

Alone in an unlocked house in a safe neighborhood in the suburban town of Concord, Massachusetts, two good, obedient girls, Jessica Stern, 15, and her sister, 14, were raped on the night of October 1, 1973. The girls had just come back from ballet lessons and were doing their homework when a strange man armed with a gun entered their home. Afterward, when they reported the crime, the police were skeptical.

The rapist was never caught. For over 30 years, Stern denied the pain and the trauma of the assault. Following the example of her family, Stern--who lost her mother at the age of three, and whose father was a Holocaust survivor--focused on her work instead of her terror. She became a world-class expert on terrorism, a lauded academic and writer who interviewed terrorists around the globe. But while her career took off, her success hinged on her symptoms. After her ordeal she could not feel fear in normally frightening situations.]]></itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords>Harvard Book Store,Culture Identity,People Places,Politics Public Affairs,North America,20th Century,21st Century,Authors,Culture,Lifestyle,Non Fiction,emotion,WGBH,WGBH FM,WGBH Forum Network Book Tour,Boston,Massachusetts</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:duration>42:04</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>Luis Alberto Urrea: Into the Beautiful North</title>
      <description><![CDATA[Award-winning novelist, poet, and essayist Luis Alberto Urrea reads from and discusses his newest novel, <em>Into the Beautiful North</em>.

Nineteen-year-old Nayeli works at a taco shop in her Mexican village and dreams about her father, who journeyed to the US when she was young. Recently, it has dawned on her that he isn&#8217;t the only man who has left town. In fact, there are almost no men in the village--they&#8217;ve all gone north. While watching <em>The Magnificent Seven</em>, Nayeli decides to go north herself and recruit seven men--her own "Siete Magnficos"--to repopulate her hometown and protect it from the bandidos who plan on taking it over.]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:37:49 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Award-winning novelist, poet, and essayist Luis Alberto Urrea reads from and discusses his newest novel, <em>Into the Beautiful North</em>.

Nineteen-year-old Nayeli works at a taco shop in her Mexican village and dreams about her father, who journeyed to the US when she was young. Recently, it has dawned on her that he isn&#8217;t the only man who has left town. In fact, there are almost no men in the village--they&#8217;ve all gone north. While watching <em>The Magnificent Seven</em>, Nayeli decides to go north herself and recruit seven men--her own "Siete Magnficos"--to repopulate her hometown and protect it from the bandidos who plan on taking it over.]]></itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords>Harvard Book Store,Literature Philosophy,People Places,North America,21st Century,Authors,Culture,Fiction,Latin American,Latino,Print,Basque,Bo Diddley,Cambridge,WGBH,WGBH FM,WGBH Forum Network Book Tour,Boston,Massachusetts</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:duration>55:38</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Kathryn Schulz on Being Wrong: Adventures in the Margin of Error</title>
      <description><![CDATA[Journalist and "wrongologist" Kathryn Schulz holds a conversation about mistakes (and admitting them), and her new book, <em>Being Wrong: Adventures in the Margin of Error</em>.

To err is human. Yet most of us go through life assuming (and sometimes insisting) that we are right about nearly everything, from the origins of the universe to how to load the dishwasher. If being wrong is so natural, why are we all so bad at imagining that our beliefs could be mistaken, and why do we react to our errors with surprise, denial, defensiveness, and shame?

In <em>Being Wrong</em>, Kathryn Schulz explores why we find it so gratifying to be right and so maddening to be mistaken, and how this attitude toward error corrodes relationships--whether between family members, colleagues, neighbors, or nations. Along the way, she takes us on a tour of human fallibility, from wrongful convictions to no-fault divorce; medical mistakes to misadventures at sea; failed prophecies to false memories; "I told you so!" to "Mistakes were made."

In the end, <em>Being Wrong</em> is not just an account of human error but a tribute to human creativity--the way we generate and revise our beliefs about ourselves and the world. At a moment when economic, political, and religious dogmatism increasingly divide us, Schulz explores the seduction of certainty and the crises occasioned by error.]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:14:32 -0400</pubDate>
      <link>http://forum-network.org</link>
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      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Journalist and "wrongologist" Kathryn Schulz holds a conversation about mistakes (and admitting them), and her new book, <em>Being Wrong: Adventures in the Margin of Error</em>.

To err is human. Yet most of us go through life assuming (and sometimes insisting) that we are right about nearly everything, from the origins of the universe to how to load the dishwasher. If being wrong is so natural, why are we all so bad at imagining that our beliefs could be mistaken, and why do we react to our errors with surprise, denial, defensiveness, and shame?

In <em>Being Wrong</em>, Kathryn Schulz explores why we find it so gratifying to be right and so maddening to be mistaken, and how this attitude toward error corrodes relationships--whether between family members, colleagues, neighbors, or nations. Along the way, she takes us on a tour of human fallibility, from wrongful convictions to no-fault divorce; medical mistakes to misadventures at sea; failed prophecies to false memories; "I told you so!" to "Mistakes were made."

In the end, <em>Being Wrong</em> is not just an account of human error but a tribute to human creativity--the way we generate and revise our beliefs about ourselves and the world. At a moment when economic, political, and religious dogmatism increasingly divide us, Schulz explores the seduction of certainty and the crises occasioned by error.]]></itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords>Harvard Book Store,Culture Identity,Literature Philosophy,People Places,North America,21st Century,Authors,Culture,Journalists,Lifestyle,Non Fiction,Print,belief,WGBH,WGBH FM,WGBH Forum Network Book Tour,Boston,Massachusetts</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:duration>50:13</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Nassim Nicholas Taleb: Impact of the Highly Improbable</title>
      <description><![CDATA[Nassim Nicholas Taleb, renowned expert on risk and randomness, discusses <em>The Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable</em>. This bestselling book is now out in paperback with a new essay, "On Robustness and Fragility."

A black swan is a highly improbable event with three principal characteristics: It is unpredictable; it carries a massive impact; and, after the fact, we concoct an explanation that makes it appear less random, and more predictable, than it was. The astonishing success of Google was a black swan; so was 9/11. For Nassim Nicholas Taleb, black swans underlie almost everything about our world, from the rise of religions to events in our own personal lives.

Why do we not acknowledge the phenomenon of black swans until after they occur? Part of the answer, according to Taleb, is that humans are hardwired to learn specifics when they should be focused on generalities. We concentrate on things we already know and time and time again fail to take into consideration what we don&#8217;t know. We are, therefore, unable to truly estimate opportunities, too vulnerable to the impulse to simplify, narrate, and categorize, and not open enough to rewarding those who can imagine the "impossible." 

This lecture contains strong language.]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:54:33 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Nassim Nicholas Taleb, renowned expert on risk and randomness, discusses <em>The Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable</em>. This bestselling book is now out in paperback with a new essay, "On Robustness and Fragility."

A black swan is a highly improbable event with three principal characteristics: It is unpredictable; it carries a massive impact; and, after the fact, we concoct an explanation that makes it appear less random, and more predictable, than it was. The astonishing success of Google was a black swan; so was 9/11. For Nassim Nicholas Taleb, black swans underlie almost everything about our world, from the rise of religions to events in our own personal lives.

Why do we not acknowledge the phenomenon of black swans until after they occur? Part of the answer, according to Taleb, is that humans are hardwired to learn specifics when they should be focused on generalities. We concentrate on things we already know and time and time again fail to take into consideration what we don&#8217;t know. We are, therefore, unable to truly estimate opportunities, too vulnerable to the impulse to simplify, narrate, and categorize, and not open enough to rewarding those who can imagine the "impossible." 

This lecture contains strong language.]]></itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords>Harvard Book Store,Business Economics,Culture Identity,Education,Health Happiness,Literature Philosophy,Media Technology,People Places,Politics Public Affairs,WGBH,WGBH FM,WGBH Forum Network Book Tour,Boston,Massachusetts</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:duration>51:33</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Chuck Palahniuk: Tell All</title>
      <description><![CDATA[Chuck Palahniuk acclaimed novelist discusses of his newest book, <em>Tell All</em>, a novel inspired by the life of Lillian Hellman.

<em>Tell-All</em> is a Sunset Boulevard--inflected homage to Old Hollywood when Bette Davis and Joan Crawford ruled the roost; a veritable Tourette&#8217;s syndrome of rat-tat-tat name-dropping, from the A-list to the Z-list; and a merciless  send-up of Lillian Hellman&#8217;s habit of butchering the truth that will have Mary McCarthy cheering from the beyond.

Our Thelma Ritter-ish narrator is Hazie Coogan, who for decades has tended to the outsized needs of Katherine "Miss Kathie"  Kenton--veteran of multiple marriages, career comebacks, and cosmetic surgeries. But danger arrives with gentleman caller Webster Carlton Westward III, who worms his way into Miss Kathie&#8217;s heart (and boudoir). Hazie discovers that this bounder has already written a celebrity tell-all memoir foretelling Miss Kathie&#8217;s death in a forthcoming Lillian Hellman-penned musical extravaganza; as the body count mounts, Hazie must execute a plan to save Katherine Kenton for her fans--and for posterity.  

This lecture contains strong language and mature content.]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:21:13 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Chuck Palahniuk acclaimed novelist discusses of his newest book, <em>Tell All</em>, a novel inspired by the life of Lillian Hellman.

<em>Tell-All</em> is a Sunset Boulevard--inflected homage to Old Hollywood when Bette Davis and Joan Crawford ruled the roost; a veritable Tourette&#8217;s syndrome of rat-tat-tat name-dropping, from the A-list to the Z-list; and a merciless  send-up of Lillian Hellman&#8217;s habit of butchering the truth that will have Mary McCarthy cheering from the beyond.

Our Thelma Ritter-ish narrator is Hazie Coogan, who for decades has tended to the outsized needs of Katherine "Miss Kathie"  Kenton--veteran of multiple marriages, career comebacks, and cosmetic surgeries. But danger arrives with gentleman caller Webster Carlton Westward III, who worms his way into Miss Kathie&#8217;s heart (and boudoir). Hazie discovers that this bounder has already written a celebrity tell-all memoir foretelling Miss Kathie&#8217;s death in a forthcoming Lillian Hellman-penned musical extravaganza; as the body count mounts, Hazie must execute a plan to save Katherine Kenton for her fans--and for posterity.  

This lecture contains strong language and mature content.]]></itunes:summary>
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